Vitals: Jacob B/W & Sarah Sytje West Fleming*

Jacob B/W Fleming (1744/50-1818) b. Europe or Shrewsbury, Monmouth/Middlesex Co., NJ; r. Dover, Monmouth Co. or Northumberland Co., PA (parents possibly Joseph & Christiana Fleming; Farmer)
-burial: unknown

Sarah Sytje West (1750-1788/9) b & r Shrewsbury, Monmouth Co., NJ (daughter of James & Ann Wing West; Homemaker)
-burial: probably Monmouth Co.,NJ

Wedding: 1772, Shrewbury, Monmouth Co., NJ

Children: most born in Shrewsbury, Monmouth Co., NJ
1. James (1773-1857) r. Pekin, Tazewell, IL
2. Joseph (1773-1828)
3. Stephen W(est?) (1775- ) did he die in childhood? Was there a Jacob too who may have died in infancy? Some sources say so. Often names were reused, especially the father’s name.
4. Jacob (1777-1855) One source has this Jacob born in 1788, the last child
5. Sarah (1779-1846)
6. John West (1781-1828)
7. Steven West (1783-  )
8.Lawrence Carlysle (1784-1862) b. Monmouth or Middlesex Co., NJ, or Derry Twp., Northumberland Co., PA; r. Sugarcreek Twp., Venango Co., PA (m. Margaret Cooper-our line)
-burial: Forest Chapel Cemetery, Sugar Creek twp., Venango Co.

*This is possible parentage based on secondary documents & internet discussion. Research is ongoing.

Documentation:

Various Public Member Family Trees & documents. 11 July 2014. Ancestry.com

RETURN TO OUR FLEMING FAMILY TREE

Last revised: 1/26/17

5 Responses to Vitals: Jacob B/W & Sarah Sytje West Fleming*

  1. Tom Robertshaw says:

    Thanks for the website. There is no evidence to my knowledge to suggest that Lawrence Carl, or Carlisle, is a child to Jacob Fleming. Although this misinformation has been proliferated on the internet, none of those posting it can offer a primary source. Jacob’s will does not mention a Lawrence. If someone has a primary source, please tell me! (I do not count “Ancestry.com” or “so and so’s website” or “my friend’s family group sheet” as primary sources.

    • admin says:

      Hello Tom,
      I have communicated with you privately, and more recently have qualified the posting you refer to above. Thanks for your word of caution and inspiration. I’m revisiting my sources and will report any new findings, if any of us have any. Regards,
      Larry

  2. Kathleen Paik says:

    Aloha Tom and Larry,

    Does this “qualified” posting mean that Jacob B. and Sarah West Fleming really are
    Lawrence Carlysle Fleming’s parents? I am very new to genealogy and am sure I can get a lot of info mixed up. I would appreciate any help you can give. I know for a fact LCF was my ancestor.

    Mahalo,
    Kathleen Fleming Paik

    • admin says:

      Hello Kousin Kathleen,
      I take it that you’re from Hawaii? Who is Tom that you refer to? In researching Lawrence Carlysle Fleming via Ancestry over the weekend, it seems that our genealogists are evenly split over his parents: half Lawrence Albert Fleming (1764-1784)/ Carol Squeaky (1764-1784) and half Jacob B(udman?).(b.1744) and Sarah West (1750-1789). Yet another possibility is Charles Fleming and Christina Chamber. All seem to have ties to Monmouth County, NJ, but Jacob and Sarah have off-spring named after them as does Lawrence Carlysle. At this point, sources are hard to come by. As one who has been at this on the amateur level for many years, I admit that I use “educated” guesses (in this case, secondary sources) and “qualify” like crazy. Please let me know if you find anything more, and thanks for your interest in our common ancestors.
      Cousin Larry

      • admin says:

        December 26, 2016
        Aloha Cousin Larry,
        Thank you for your reply last month to my question about Lawrence Carlysle Fleming.
        I apologize for this tardy response but I broke my arm and am just now beginning to use the keyboard comfortably. I am delighted to find another cousin. The “Tom” to whom I addressed my earlier memo was the author of a post just immediately before yours but do not know who he is.

        Thanks for the information regarding LCF’s parents. This is certainly confusing. My original data came from Ken Gibbons, another cousin. He believed Jacob Fleming and Sarah West to be the parents. Unfortunately I have lost contact with him. Do you have any more information on Sarah West? I believe she came from Canada but have no proof.

        Thanks for your patience. I wish you a lovely holiday season and joyous New Year from Keaau, Hawaii.
        Kathleen

        Reply:
        admin says:
        December 31, 2016 at 3:28 pm (Edit)
        Aloha Cousin Kathleen,
        In reading back over some letters, I see that “Tom” is the serious researcher who keeps us honest (See Fleming family tree page). I haven’t heard from Cousin Ken in many years. In checking old notes and new Ancestry.com I see that the Luton/Ritter tree has the most speculation about our Flemings and takes Sarah West’s parentage back to James and beyond. Have a look, if you are a member. That’s all I have for now. Enjoy the sunshine,
        Larry

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